After watching the documentary “Loose Change” and taking copious notes, research the claims and evidence found in the film.
Present this evidence to your peers that either supports or rejects the claims made by the film in the blog. Provide links that show your evidence is credible.
Finally, voice your opinion. What do you believe happened on the day of 9/11?
Write 3 well-organized paragraphs for full credit.
Here's the link to the documentary: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7866929448192753501
112 comments:
One bit of evidence that is left unexplained are the light poles... If they believe the pentagon was hit by a tomahawk missile then how did it knock down five light poles that could not be knocked down unless by a direct hit which would cause an immediate explosion upon impact. However if the plane came through with its large wingspan it could be capable of knocking down several light poles.
As for the bombs which were planted in the twin towers who's to say who did it, both parties to blame are very capable of this act. The near indisputable video evidence and the explanation of its structural abilities only failing due to the explosions causes me to believe that there were bombs, but without any evidence such as security tapes there is no way to determine who planted these bombs.
I believe that on September 11th there was a terrorist attack, and that there was not a plot to make money that would sacrifice thousands of innocent lives. The conspiracy theory that these people have come up with is far fetched and highly unlikely.
Some evidence in this video that wasn't explained very well is the attack on the Pentagon. If it really was a missle then why were there those 5 light poles knocked over.
Something that did have me convinced was the Twin Towers. How these buildings were made to with stand planes, earthquakes, hurricanes and other natural dissasters, but somehow didn't last over an hour w/o collapsing. I dont understand how other buildings that got hit by planes and caught fire withstood all this for many hours! And also the frames they showed were you could see explosions below the fire and while the building was collapsing.
In my opinion 9/11 was a terrorist attack plain and simple. There's not enough evidence to proove this. But it also gets you thinking.
Some evidence in this video that wasn't explained very well is the attack on the Pentagon. If it really was a missle then why were there those 5 light poles knocked over.
Something that did have me convinced was the Twin Towers. How these buildings were made to with stand planes, earthquakes, hurricanes and other natural dissasters, but somehow didn't last over an hour w/o collapsing. I dont understand how other buildings that got hit by planes and caught fire withstood all this for many hours! And also the frames they showed were you could see explosions below the fire and while the building was collapsing.
In my opinion 9/11 was a terrorist attack plain and simple. There's not enough evidence to proove this. But it also gets you thinking.
http://www.pehi.eu/disinformation/911/2005_07_21
_Michael_Green_Loose_Change_analysis.htm
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This link will pulverize any concept from that video.
I choose not to believe anything I hear about the World Trade Centers and the Pentagon. It is very possible that the government could have set everything up, seeing how corrupt they are, but it is also very possible that the buildings were hit by terrorists. For all we know everything portrayed in the media could be completely false. If all media is showing the same things even if they are false, then they may persuade everyone to believe in it.
Why is it that the government refuses to release the footage of the airplane crashing into the Pentagon? If they in fact have nothing to hide, then why wouldn't they show the ultimate truth?
I personally think that the government knew about the attack, not all of the details, but that it was imminent. An attempt on the towers had already been done before, and they were still a prime target. Our government was most likely aware of an upcoming attack but did nothing about it. Since parts of the Patriot Act were written prior to 911, it is also possible that they let it happen so they could go through with the act. This would make sense given something major like 911 would need to happen in order for the citizens of the U.S. to go along with something like the Patriot Act.
I concur with Ryan, this link is a well written article disproving the video "Loose Change."
Article by Michael Green, Ph.D
I believe that there are many loosly held arguments in the video. For example, it was stated that the planes that were "switched" looked completely different. If this was a government opperation I find it highly unlikely that they would conduct it so carlessly. Also, while interviewing the flight instructer about the hijackers flying skills the interviewer failed to ask if the pilot could have aquired the necissary skills to fly between then and 9/11. The article posted above points out a plethora more of loosly gathered evidence within the video.
However, just because the video was poorly made does not mean they did not point out any valid ideas. I do believe that the government could have been involved with the events that took place on 9/11. There is enough sufficent evidence to indicate that something fishy is going on. Why did the FBI confiscate the security tapes from the gas station and hotel near the pentagon? If there is nothing incriminating on them, and the government is "trustworthy," then why not show them? I do believe that citizens of the Unite States underestimate the governments power and sometimes blindly follow their word. If they government wishes to do something - they can.
However, it is also very possible that a terrorist organization conducted the attacks. But, it is not very likley that the government had no indications of an attack to come. This is why I believe the most plausable conclusion is the government choose to ignore the imminent attack, and possibly decided to use it to their advantage(i.e envading the middle east).
I think that the government did plan it, to make money and destroy valid files and information. I believe this for a couple of reasons but one big one, the video didn’t really mention Building 7 at the World Trade Center. This building was bomb proof, bullet roof windows; it made its own air and water supplies. The reason that the government would have you believe for building 7 falling into a perfectly pile of ruble consistent with a controlled demolition is that fires broke out from the collapse of the twin towers causing structural damage to Building 7. This is the third steel framed sky scraper to collapse in history, and the other two are the twin towers. So a 47-story steel framed skyscraper collapsed at 5:20 PM when the North Tower had collapsed at 10:29 AM hours later, in 6.5 seconds at free fall speed Building 7 collapsed, because there were fires. Did I mention that there were also two other building in front of Building 7, building 5 and 6, and they did not collapse.
http://www.debunking911.com/pull.htm
http://www.wtc7.net/
http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/attack/wtc7.html
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/january2006/050106silversteinanswers.htm
These accusations in this video are convincing but I agree with Kyle. The government has NO reason to put so many lives to death and lose all that money.
One misleading yet convincing story is the Pentagon attack. Who is saying those pictures are the REAL pictures from then? Just because some video is made doen't make any of it true,as far as Im concerned its about as believable as The Bee Movie. They have a compelling argument but all they have are some pictures.For someone who has never done actual reshearch on the attack they might believe this story.
The Twin Towers attack to me seems more believable, but yet again far fetched. Their story supports the fact that their were bombs planted in the Twin Towers and then set off after the planes hit. These buildings are HUGE and have so much wiring and heating in them that something like...OH maybe a plane coming through with jet fuel could easily set off some explosions.To have the precision and timing down PERFECT for the demolition wave coming down right above the explosions is practically impossible. Another possibility is AIR. All the air pushing down would break all the windows and spit out the debri making it look like an explosion.
Obviously I disbelieve the thoughts in this video,yet convincing its still all crap. I think one out of thousands in this country thinking our government is corrupt decided to make a video disproving 9/11.
I also agree with Ryan on the video releases,that is a fishy story.Also that the government knew something was coming but I dont believe they expected everything that happened.
The video provided numerous accounts of evidence to support there theories yet left some important details unresolved. The most obvious example is the light poles at the pentagon that where said to be knocked over by the plane, the video claimed that the plane could not have taken out the light poles upon is decent yet offered no alternative explanation for there destruction.
As for the demolition of the World Trade Centers by what the video claims to be carefully placed explosives, they never address who was the one to place the bombs in the building.
I believe that the attacks on 911 were in fact by terrorists, yet I also believe that government may have had knowledge of these attacks and did nothing to prevent them or even let them happen.
I think that the terrorists got connections and made it through the safety nets and hijacked a couple of planes and managed to slam 2 747's into the 2 towers.
And who says that the planes weren’t packed with explosives. Or that the terrorists didn’t have connections on the ground. The freak liberals try to make the whole thing sound like a Government inside job.Idiots.The liberals were phrobly paid by the terrorists to destroy the country. That is what they do rank on the military with the media because they are so negative.
Then the other buildings could have had explosives placed there by terrorists. And if they could not get through them they phrobly paid someone to plant the "explosives". When something explodes there are usually more explosions.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article14944.htm
In my opinion "loose Change" presents the information about 911 in a overwhelmingly convincing way. After watching the video multiple red flags pop up especially things surrounding the Pentagon. There is no possible way that the airplane could have took out 5 light poles and still directed itself into the pentagon as well as it did. So i believe that the light poles had explosives underneath them and a missile or some sort of bomb device hit the Pentagon. I think this because George Bush Sr's plane also hit a light pole and it shredded he wing, so the "plane" that hit the Pentagon either had re-enforced wings or super powers. And if it did have re-enforced wings, someone explain that to me.
Another huge red flag is the lack of debri at the crash site in pennsylvania. If you look at any previous crash sites there is plane pieced, fire, engines and dead bodies. Once again, all of these factors are absent at the crach site not only at the Pentagon but also in Pennsylvania.
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/08/14/greece.crash/
Finally, I whole heartidly believe that George W. Bush and his surrounding staff were responsible for supporting or doing all of the attacks on the U.S on 911. The pland hitting the Pentagon, The towers crashing down like demolition and no debri from a Pennsylvania field all point to the direction of lies.
Personally I think that both sides are right and wrong in their own ways the reason I say this is because either side can change or bend the truth to benefit their side of the story for example on this site http://www.pehi.eu/disinformation/911/2005_07_21_Michael_Green_Loose_Change_analysis.htm it gives an example of loose change using a quote of a man describing a plane that he saw, but he saw the plane from a long distance away so he most likely described the plan wrong. Loose change did not tell you this to make their story sound better. The same goes with our government they only tell you half of the story to make their side sound better for example on this site http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/attack/wtc7.html so unless there is someone willing to give straight facts (which is unlikely) I think either side could have done it. In 1993 there was an attack on the world trade center a car bombing by terrorists. The bomb exploded in the underground garage at 12:17 pm, generating a pressure estimated over one GPa and opening a 30-meter-wide (98 foot) hole through four sublevels of concrete. The WTC’s architect would later tell jurors that if the van had been left closer to the poured concrete foundations, they would have succeeded; the tower would have toppled. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_World_Trade_Center_bombing. This shows terrorists had the capability of destroying a tower and of course our government has the technology to collapse a tower.
In my opinion I think both sides have truth to their story but both have lies so no matter what story you side with it will be wrong in one way or another. I think that this will be one of those events in history that will never be completely explained or solved it will always be confused and mysterious. One thing that I do know is that it was a terrorist attack weather the terrorists are from a land over seas or within our own government it was a terrorist attack.
I do think that videos like loose change are a good thing however, it gets people to think and try to figure out what happened on their own instead of believing everything they hear on the news.
Who attacked us on September 11, 2001? Was it a huge conspiracy that unoccupied American minds have developed or was it a planned attack by a group of terrorists that hate the American people? Hm... you decide. In February 1998, Osama Bin Ladin and four others issued a self-styled fatwa, publicly declaring that it was God’s decree that every Muslim should try his utmost to kill any American, military or civilian, anywhere in the world, because of American "occupation" of Islam’s holy places and aggression against Muslims. However Loose Change would have us believe that no, it wasn't terrorism that attacked us that day, it was our own government.
The video gave a good point about the buildings being brought down by bombs. However, if an organization took the time to plan such an attack on the American people, why wouldn't they have also taken the time to get someone on the inside, plant the bombs, and make the attack more of a success? As the Washington Post reported; "Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat condemned the attack as well, although some Palestinians in Israeli-occupied territories and Lebanon celebrated with glee." On that day freedom, justice, and everything America stands for was under attack, yet people still use those freedoms to put together how our government planned those attacks when people in the middle east were CELEBRATING?
Loose Change failed to talk about the other terrorist attacks made on America that were not as affective as 9-11. In 1993 a bomb attacks was made on the World Trade Center, in 1998 al Qaeda carried out near-simultaneous truck bomb attacks on the U.S. embassies in Nairobi, Kenya, and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania.The attacks killed 224 people,including 12 Americans,and wounded thousands more. In October 2000, an al Qaeda team in Aden, Yemen used a motorboat filled with explosives to blow a hole in the side of a destroyer, the USS Cole, almost sinking the vessel and killing 17 American sailors. And finally on September 11, terrorists attacked the World Trade Centers and the Pentagon. And here I am, an American student getting educated on how our government planned the whole thing...
Freedom is a funny thing.
I think the bit about the light poles raised good questions like: If it was not a cruise missle than why did the fbi take all tha tapes and put muzzles on witnesses? theres also the question about the hole in the pentagon. Im pretty sure you cannot fit a 747 through a hole that big. there is a good amount of evidence that supports both sides of the argument and I am not sure that our governmen is exactly telling the truth. but then again when has it ever told the whole truth?
then there are the bombs in the towers. you know that in the early 90's a car bomb went off in the parking garage of the north tower, And the government has irrefutable evidence linking that bomb to middle eastern terrorists. who's to say that the terrorists didnt infiltrate the building and plant bombs? Apart from the random evacuations in the days before the attack I don't think there is any evdence linking the government to the attack on the twin towers. The pentagon on the other hand i'm not so sure of. this video has certainly gave me many questions on how our country is run and who is leading it.
Well overall I have to back the conspiracy most of it backed on two main theories,
one the fact that steel wouldn't possibly melt at the temperatures that jet fuel produce, and two the video tapes that were never released of the pentagon supposedly
being hit by an airplane. The hardest thing to back is why would our government do that but that can be explained by the billons of dollars worth of missing gold
and the reasons which to go to war.
The simple facts of temperatures it takes 1510ºC to reach the melting point of typical structural steel and 825ºCis the maximum temperature of hydrocarbon fires burning in the atmosphere without pressurization or pre-heating. So therefore there is no
way that the jet fuel alone could actually burn down or even begin to melt the steel.There are hundreds of sources backing this theory but one of the more reliable ones I found was
(http://911research.wtc7.net/disinfo/deceptions/infernos
.html). It says directly
in the article "jet fuel fires could not have produced fires hot enough to melt steel,
with its greater-than 1500ºC melting point, when it normally requires pressurized air to achieve temperatures much over 800ºC?".
Then with the video it makes no sense why if they wanted to disprove all the conspiracy
theories why they wouldn't just release the videos and end the critisizm at once.
At (http://infowars.net/articles/
may2006/17050Pentagon_videos.htm). They talk about how the FBI immediatly after the supposed crash rushed to nearby places with security cameras such as the Citgo gas station or the Sheraton National Hotel and confiscated the
tapes before they were able to be veiwed or released. What has been known and is open to see at the website is (The hotel in question was not the Sheraton but was in fact the Doubletree in Arlington, VA. AND this video did not capture the impact of the flight.
According to the same document, the Citgo gas station video DOES NOT show flight 77 impacting the pentagon either.)
I think that the video was very convincing, from the government hiding every little piece of evidence to the whole that didnt even look like an airplane had gone through the Pentagon.
If the United States really was under attack i dont understand why they would try to make such an effort on hiding any little piece of evidence.There was one really interesting fact that they did provide and that was when they were talkin about the engines and the little passport found on the street.I dont see how a passport can make it through all that fire and bombs when its just made out of paper.
I was convinced because the video showed me enough facts about every little detail about every little thing that happened on that day. I could be wrong but how the video was presented really changed my view's on what happened on 9/11.
I believe that Dylan Avery and his crew put a ton of time into researching their beliefs. Although the true answer is indeed unknown, Loose Change seems like it is trying to make everyone absolutely SURE that the 9/11 attacks were part of a government plot to get money. I think that forcing this type information down the educational throats of our youth is completely wrong. There are many reasons to believe both claims. The September 11 attacks could have been pulled off by our government, or it very well could have been terrorists.
First off, In the story there are numerous spots where Dylan states a bit of contradictory evidence, and then completely assumes that the latter isn't possible. This seems a bit concieted, eh? According to this source, there is no concrete evidence that completely debunks the other. This means that Mr. Avery and his team have no reason to just disregard all oposing evidence.
Although there is no proof either way, people just can't believe the government all of the time. There is a ton of people that have been researching (a lot of people with credability) that simply states "what if". What if the government was behind all of this? What if the World Trade Center was brought down in a controlled mannor? After all, what is the goal of life (or at least to live a good one)? MONEY! Here is a cover on the insider trading (or so it seems) that was happening just days before the attack on teh World Trade Center.
We may never know, but it is at least interesting to explore all of the possibilities.
In my honest opinion, September 11th, 2001 was not an inside Job. The "bombs" or exposions that had gone off in the building were not indeed bombs. The building fell not because bombs were implanted by the government, but simply because the structure of the building was not made the best, most sturdy way possible. If you recall from the documentary, when the World Trade Center was being built, there were not triangles in the structure, as most people know are indeed the strongest shape to hold each load. However, straight "I" shape rods were used on each floor. Each Floor holding up another floor. Each rod was reinforced with cement blocks. When cement blocks are put under enormous pressure, the "explode" and sound much like a "bomb" going off. Hence the sounds people heard and the pictures you've seen of "bombs" going off on the building.
The reason the Empire State Building did not collapse when the plane hit in the 1940's, was because the Empire State Building was indeed made with triangles, the strongest shape. The plane was a B-25 Mitchell Bomber plane, probably three times less than a Boeing 747. The Empire State Building could support itself.
In the 1990's, the basement was bombed by Osama Bin Laden. The reason it did not collapse this time was because the bottom end of buildings are always the strongest part.
Here is a question I will put to you. What would President Bush gain from taking down the biggest, richest city in America. Why would any of his advisors gain from having a multi-million dollar building collapse? And the Flight 93 plane going to Cleveland? Thats just upsurd. The documentary "Loose Change" is a very believable story. This is made to have people think. The government may have known something about attacks on the United States, but in my opinion, we know far less inside information. They know the ins and outs of our country, there may be some flaws, but we are one of the richest countries in the world. So obviously they must be doing something right.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empire_State_Building
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_trade_center
These links are simply to read the structure and architecture of the building.
Watching Loose Change made it hard for me to believe that our government had staged this attack on America. Some of the evidence that was presented was very compelling, but at the same time was unbelievable. I think it's hard for me to believe these "facts" because we never heard about these things on the news. All we've grown to know is that we were attacked by terrorists.
I did find it to be suspicious that the trade center had removed all bomb sniffing dogs from the towers just before the attack. Also all the statistics that were presented from the stock market, it almost seemed like we knew it was coming. Also, the information presented about the attack on the pentagon was interesting. the footage that was shown made it seem impossible for a plane to make the attack. And the fact that there were little remains from the air plane seemed strange.
Above all, i do believe that 9/11 was an attack on our country by terrorists, and i do not believe that our own government planned this. The number of lives lost and damage done is too large for that conspiracy theory.
There are many different views of what happened on 9/11. Theories about how the government did an “inside job”, in order to make millions off of sacrificing innocent lives. Then there are the theories of the terrorists from another country coming in to bring down America. Here is some evidence that shows that 9/11 was an inside job, and concurs with the documentary “Loose Change.”
http://911review.com/articles/griffin/nyc1.html#twintowers
This website has multiple sources, including articles and videos, that talk about the “inside job” of 9/11. They talk about how the steel-framed buildings should not have burned down from the plane crashing into them. It also talks about the collapse of building 7; the building that collapsed and was not hit by any type of aircraft.
I am not 100% sure of what I believe. I don’t want to believe that the government would do this to its own country for money, but the amount evidence is unambiguous. At the same time I still do not see how a missile would have bent the five light poles at the Pentagon “crash” site, at the same time, if it was a plan why didn’t the building show damage from the wing span? There is an abundance of evidence supporting both theories, it just depends on which side I want to believe in, and at this point I am still unsure.
After watching the documentary "Loose Change", I still dont believe that the Government had planned the attack. Sure, there was a lot of unexplained things such as how 5 light poles were taken out, yet the plane had left a hole smaller than itself in the wall of the pentagon. But would our Government put so many people at risk?
The video had alot of evidence claiming that the Government was behind the attack. Such as how the Twin Towers were designed and constructed to stand up against huge storms, attacks, and many other things, yet it stood for barely an hour after it was hit by a plane. I do believe that bombs were put into the building in many different areas but I believe that it was done by terrosists, not the Government. Because why would the Government make it so obvious when they could have taken their time to hide the bombs to make sure there was no evidence?
On September 11th, I believe that our country was attacked by terrorists, not our Government.
A lot of things are left unsaid and unsolved with the tragedy of 9/11. One of them being that several people heard two explosions after the first plane hit on the lower levels of the towers. No one knows why those explosions went off, or exactly what floor of the tower they were on. They had a "random" evacuation a couple days before the attack for security purposes they claimed and to this day it is unknown why they made people leave for a securiy check. They say there was a huge hole in the ground that no plane could make and that it was a bomb of some sort, they just did not know what kind it was.
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread9247/pg1
As for the information in this video I believe was made out of one persons beliefs and theories and turned it into changing facts, into fiction. It is very simple to take a real life footage video and add or for that matter subract important roles that happened on that day. I think this video was made from someone who already did not like George Bush as a president and wanted to push the issue too far as to say he was behind the 9/11 attack. I fully reject the claims made in the video just because every story your going to read about somebody else has already read it and tweaked it to their own believing. I believe that yes, this video holds a minimum amount of truth in it, I just have an opinion about what happened and watching a video has not changed it, nor will it. I believe that Loose change took quotes from standard people who did not necessarily know what they saw, they just guessed going along with the crowd. They took firefighters quotes of what really came out of their mouth and put them into something totally different to support their own story such as this quote that was the real one "I guess about three minutes later you just heard explosions coming from building two, the south tower. It seemed like it took forever, but there were about ten explosions. At the time I didn't realize what it was. We realized later after talking and finding out that it was the floors collapsing to where the plane had hit." they then published this quote saying it came from the same person , "we heard explosions coming from building two, the south tower. It seemed like it took forever, but there were about ten explosions. . . . We then realized the building started to come down.” -- Firefighter Craig Carlsen
http://www.debunking911
.com/quotes.htm
All in all my over all view of what happened on 9.11 is simply that America was blind sided to every clue that we ever got handed to us like when bin laden claims he gave us hints two years before the towers were hit, so the terrorists hit us hard and good. Under no circumstances do I think that President Bush would kill so many innocent lives simply to go to war with another country. I believe that on the day of 9/11 America panicked not knowing how to react, or what step to take next after the first towers got hit. Yeah maybe if we had been warned and had the training to prevent another attack I believe we would have. I also do not believe it was a military plane that crashed into the pentagon. Just because the wing span was not the same lenth as the plane, they also did not think that maybe the wings fell off before it hit the building considering they took out five light posts right before crashing into the building which means it could have caused the same exact measurements. Why would Americans destroy each other and then have to turn right back around and have to pay for everything to be fixed? To me, it was a simple act of terrorism that everybody was blind to until it happened. As far as Bin Laden goes, I think of course he was behind it one hundred percent. Of course he is not going to come into the states himself and do it he has plenty of followers that were glad to take their own lives to please him, along with many others.
I disagree with the movie "Loose Change". Although they seemed to have valid arguments, anyone can say anything in a certain way to make it sound true. These "artist" could have distorted information and worded it in such a way that it seems true and legitamate. The idea of our own government killing many many people is ludacris!
The "exlosions" that can be "clearly" seen durring the collapse of the twin towers could me dabris that is being pushed out of the building. The center may have been colapsing faster than the outside because the outside is reinforced better than the inside. The collapses do seem suspitous i must admit, but would our government use such obvious tactics to bring it down? Its way to recognizable of a collapse. If our government really did do this, then they are stupid to believe that us as americans wouldn't recognize the demolition. This is if there were charges set in the tower that is.
There are no real concrete contacts and sources to truely verify their accusations. All of the people that they said that said this or that seem to all be taken from the internet and there is so much BS (pardon my language) on the internet. The only way I would consider this movie as any kind of true documentary is if the people who said things submitted their poits in writing.
Well first off, the fact the there was no wing sections, tail sections, or engines at the Pentagon, leads me to believe what they said about a possible missle hitting the Pentagon.
Now with the Twin Towers watching the movie again you can see where it would look like minature explosions were going off in side the building. However, the buildings are full of gas pipes, that carrie diesel fuel. That is what the minature explosions could have been. So not going to buy off on the pre-placed bombs in the Twin Towers.
My opinion on this whole mess is taht we were diliberately attacked. Either by the Al-Qaida or by our government. I believe that our government would not have tried to hurt one of its main place of opperations. However, the Al-Qaida would.
This video was very interesting. Before watching this video I always just believed the twin towers were hit by a plane, knocked down and that was it. But watching this video made me do a lot of thinking...
The Twin Towers had to be hit in the right spot, and by something incredibly powerful. They are not small buildings by any means. I don't believe they were hit by missiles. How does something small, yes powerful, but small create something so large to collapse so easily? For example the FIVE light poles, I don't think one missle could take all of those down. The plane is over twice the size of a missle and could take down two buildings a lot easier than a missle could. I don't understand why they would think a missle could do all of that?
I had not heard about the planted bombs in the building until watching this video. Like I said in the previous paragraph, I thought the buildings were hit by a plane and that was it. There are people trying to say they know who planted them, but if they knew wouldn't they have said something before? Or atleast have tried and stopped it? I have a hard time believing the bomb part. I think people are trying to carry this thing out and make it seam much bigger. I think the buildings were hit by a plane, end of story.
Basically I think 9/11 is much more simple than people are making it. An evil and sick man decided to attack a popular state, and one of the largest buildings to get at the U.S. Why they would want to start a huge fight and get themselves into this type of situation beats me. I believe the building was hit by a plane, no secret bombs were planted...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loose_Change_(video)
http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=8340
Well personally I am very torn by this video. A lot of the evidence that was shown was very convincing but I don't want to believe that our country could do something like that. It seems as if the pentagon attack could have been something other than a terrorist attack, they claim that a boeing 757 went into the Pentagon yet the hole is as if the wings and tail and engines just magicly fell off and dissapeared before it went into the Pentagon. There were no skid marks on the grass yet they claim that it slid into the building. And there was and unmarked plane shown flying over the Pentagon just moments before it was hit....I'm not sure what to believe.
As for the Twin Towers the stories behind them collapsing are convincing, the video shows a lot substancial evidence that the only way the towers could have collapsed would be if bombs were planted in them not by the fire. And I believe that if the terrorist were capable of getting into our aviation schools, and onto our planes with weapons then it's possible that they could get into the twin towers and plant bombs. They never officially said in the video that I remember if they believed that the US planted the bombs in the twin towers or what. And there is no way to determine who it was.
I think that either way it is possible, the US could have been behind all of it to get money or destroy files. Or it could have been an act of terrorism. I don't know what to believe, I don't want to believe that this country that we love is capable of killing so many innocent people to hide something or get money. But I suppose with all the evidence shown in "Loose Change" that very well could have been it.
Some of the evidence is very convincing, but some of it doesn't seem to fit with what really happened. IF a missile did in fact hit the pentagon, explain the light poles? But, saying the airplane hit the pentagon, where was all the debris? I think the only way to really find out what happened during the attack on the pentagon is to see what is on those tapes from the gas station. If the government has nothing to hide, why not release the tapes?
As for the twin towers, who is to say who planted the bombs? No one really has any evidence about that case, except for witnesses saying they heard several explosions. Who is to say that bombs were even planted? Those "explosions" that they showed on the documentary could simply just be walls collapsing from so much pressure falling down on them.
All though the documentary is convincing, I believe 9/11 was a terroist attack. Those guys went through a lot of work to make us think that the government planned the attack. I would say they did a pretty legitament job, it is convincing.
The information that was provided in the movie Loose Change was very convincing, but after doing some research, there are many flaws that have been found in their own understanding. Some are mentioned below.
One claim that was made through this video was that Charles Burlingham, an ex-navy F4 pilot who worked in the pentagon, participated in an exercise simulating crashing a 757 into a building in the year of 2000, before retiring to take a job at American Airlines. What this video seemed to overlook is that Burlingham started working for the AA in 1979 and retired from the Naval Reserve in 1996, 4 years before these supposed exercises even took place.
Source: http://www.arlingtoncemetery.net/cfburling3.htm
Another claim made was that the plane crashing into the world trade center was identified as a windowless cargo plane, when the truth is, the man who claimed this, Marc Birnbach, was over two miles away at that time.
Source: http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html?page=3
Still yet another claim is that Seismic records prove that explosives were used in the World Trade Center. This is quite interesting, especially since the Columbia University seismic center specifically states that their records do not support such a conclusion.
Source:
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html?page=5
And the last false claim which I will mention (although there are many, many more) is the hole in the Pentagon. When the plane crashed into the pentagon, the fuselage and wings caused damage mostly to the ground floor while the plane’s tail fin and vertical stabilizer created a smaller impact hole on the second floor. So what happened is that the plane created a very large whole extending from the bottom floor to the second floor. The video mistakes sections of the large hole caused by the airliner for the entire hole and, ironically, features photographs that actually disprove its “small hole” theory. This video identifies the portion of the hole on the second floor as the entire hole.
Source: http://www.america.gov/st/pubs-english/2007/March/20070330134723abretnuh0.9919245.html
In conqlusion, one can begin to see how false and lack of firm information was given through this video. Loose Change itself had a little to many “Loose Facts” within itself and is completely absurd to even be taken seriously. Not only is this my own opinion, but even other conspiracy theorists have found this video a complete embarrassment. If you are interested in seeing what these conspiracy theorists have to say, visit the following site:
http://911research.wtc7.net/reviews/loose_change/index.html
Some people think that in the World Trade Center's catastrophe there were bombs too, but I think that they are wrong to think this, because architects that know about it can help to know what happen that day. The towers were made of pure steel, architects that know about those materials can tell you that bombs can just make the steel hot, but can’t cause the tower to collapse. On www.ask.com you can know a lot of these materials. Also you can talk to architects like architect JOSE LUIS RODRIGUEZ from San Luis Potosi, Mexico. He says, “THE FIRE CAME FROM THE AIRPLANES. THE EXPLOSSION OF THE AIRPLANES MADE THE WELDING WORK FAIL BECAUSE THE TEMPERATURE MADE THE WELDING MELT AND ALL THE STEEL SEPARATED FROM EACH OTHER.” He also added, “THE IRON USED TO BUILD THE TOWERS DIDN’T SUPPORT TOO MUCH PRESSURE TO HOLD THE WEIGHT OF THE TOP OF THE TOWER, SO THE TOP FELL DOWN AND THE PRESSURE OF THE TOP CAUSED THE TOWER TO COLLAPSE.” I went to see his career history. In www.wikepedia.org you can see that he studied on UNAM, the biggest university in Mexico.
The towers were a target from a long time ago, that plan was made in MIAMI, were some “documents” were written by some kind of terrorist. The PENTAGON was another target too from a long time. The material that the PENTAGON was built didn’t support too much temperature so when the airplane exploded the building got on fire. JOSE LUIS RODRIGUEZ explained that the pentagon wasn't too much damaged for the explosion of the airplane because the material was more resistant that the towers'. He said that the material of the towers was steel, and the material of the pentagon was different and it could support more temperature than steel, so that is why the pentagon didn't suffered as much as the towers. On www.wikipedia.org we can see that the towers were the best target to hit because their height and floor area was larger.
In conclusion, I don't think that bombs were included to destroy the WORLD TRADE CENTER. I read the explanation of an architect. They studied this for a long time so they know a lot of this topics. I think that the airplanes caused all the damage. But I think that the government already knew that something was going to happen. This was not something unknown for them because the video says that people canceled their flights for the morning of SEPTEMBER 11.
A piece of evidence that is missing is the families that people on the planes that crashed into all the buildings. He had know that had family on any of the planes speech. Because even a lunatic knows you can't make people disappear.
You already what happened with my parents they very much disliked the fact that I was even watching that video even more that the video was saying that it wasn't planes that crashed into these buildings. But, I also talked to someone this weekend that thought it was a conspiracy theory. But hey this is why we have freedom of speech and freedom of choice.
You pick what ever side you want but look at which side is justified sure they make it look like their is justified. But look at all the stuff we can do with computers these days. Why would someone go and kill so many of their people. The Government is not that messed up. So obviously I think it was a terrorist attack.
A web site that is very useful is
http://911review.com/articles/griffin/nyc1.html#twintowers
One piece of evidence is the bombs that were placed in the towers; in the documentary they showed clips of all the explosions that occurred right as the building was collapsing. A building is made to withstand hurricanes that travel 225 km/h but it can't withstand a plane crashing into the side; in an article I found online it states "It is known that structural steel begins to soften around 425°C and loses about half of its strength at 650°C. This is why steel is stress relieved in this temperature range. But even a 50% loss of strength is still insufficient, by itself, to explain the WTC collapse. It was noted above that the wind load controlled the design allowables. The WTC, on this low-wind day, was likely not stressed more than a third of the design allowable, which is roughly one-fifth of the yield strength of the steel. Even with its strength halved, the steel could still support two to three times the stresses imposed by a 650°C fire".
So how could this fire be the true reason that the building collapsed? In the documentary they show bombs exploding on certain floors as the building is falling; with the evidence provided in the documentary and the evidence I found in articles online I believe that the true source to the collapsing of the World Trade Center could not solely be the plane crashing into the side of it.
I believe that the attack on September 11, 2001 on the World Trade Center was a terrorist attack, I don’t think that was by accident at all. I believe that with the evidence provided in the video, the government knew about the terrorist attack before it happened. Why would they remove the bomb sniffing dogs days before the attack if they still believed there was going to be an attack? I think there are still some unsearched areas that need to be discovered before they know the exact truth to the situation.
http://www.tms.org/pubs/journals/JOM/0112/Eagar/Eagar-0112.html
Ok seriously the tower that was struck second, collapsed first? The tower struck second was not struck in a vital spot it was struck on the side and the fuel burned outside of the building and burned less time than the first building. If the tower that was struck first burned longer than the tower that was stuck second and collapsed after the tower that was struck second how is it possible that the second tower stuck after the first collapsed first. First of all the tower was falling sideways it seemed then it was straightened and fell straight down with a cloud of pulverized concert around it, then they compared it to a freefall of matter equation and it was almost falling at the fastest it could go, the fastest it’s free fall of matter speed is 10.2 seconds it fell in 10.5 seconds which means there was nothing in that building’s way. Then the flashes well there were flashes on every video I saw on the internet. So the controlled demolition story is in and the “they collapsed due to the heat” story is out, my example is the empire state building it was victim of a plane crash and there were only one-million dollars in damage and it still stands today. There was a fire fighter who thought the fire would be put out they just needed the ladders and water which they had. Although the dust cloud and the insurance claims and the push stocks all suggest there was some inside info and that Bush’s presidency wasn’t going smoothly then all of a sudden the U.S. supports him because of 9/11 and his decision to go to war and fight back on terror, this was such a sharp turn backwards everyone suddenly liked Bush. If you try to tell me what of the pentagon there were reports air traffic controllers thought it was a military aircraft there is a video in which the suggest it could have been a predator drone because that day the military “lost” one there were pentagon people who were removing something about 14 feet long and were removing small derbies to I guess avoid suspicion of a predator drone plane. As for the five light poles the drone fits a wing span and the explosions left over missiles or explosives in or on the plane.
In all I think the government paid these people to say nothing but act as victims.
Thanks for taking time to read this
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=78604845368617623
http://www.wtc7.net/
http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/attack/wtc7.html
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/january2006/050106silversteinanswers
I think the video show us numerous evidence that wasn't resolved. A good example is the light poles at the pentagon that said to be knocked over by the plane, the video show us that the plane could not have done that, he plane could not have taken the poles out but is decent yet offered no alternative explanation for the destruction.
The part thtat shows about the World Trade Center the video shows that had bombs placed on the building before the airplane crashed, they never tould who was the one who placed the bombs.
I believe that was a terrorist atack on the 9/11, but i also believe that the government know about the atack but they did nothing to prevent them or even let them be done.
Some of the evidence was not explained well about what had happen on 9/11, because the people the inerviewed could of been any person that had nothing to do with the attack and just said the things that they wanted them to say.I think that the video was very convincing,but over all it has some mission information as well as miss leading information.
The bombing of the twin towers, who knows what really happen. It was every convincing that the twin towers were built to handle planes, earthquakes, hurricanes and other dissasters but they were not able to even stand an hour after they got hit.
As for 9/11, I don't really know what to think of what really happen. The video " loose change" (http://www.pehi.eu/disinformation/911/2005_07_21
_Michael_Green_Loose_Change_analysis.htm) is vary convising but at the same time so is all of the other things that have been said and proven that made me think otherwise.
I choose not to pick a side invlolving the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. It's possible that the government could have set everything up, seeing how corrupt they are, but it is also very possible that the buildings were hit by terrorists. For all we know everything portrayed in the media could be completely false. If all media is showing the same things even if they are false, then they may persuade everyone to believe in it.
Why is it that the government refuses to release the footage of the airplane crashing into the Pentagon? If they in fact have nothing to hide, then why wouldn't they show the ultimate truth?
I personally think that the government knew about the attack, not all of the details, but that it was imminent. An attempt on the towers had already been done before, and they were still a prime target. Our government was most likely aware of an upcoming attack but did nothing about it. Since parts of the Patriot Act were written prior to 911, it is also possible that they let it happen so they could go through with the act. This would make sense given something major like 911 would need to happen in order for the citizens of the U.S. to go along with something like the Patriot Act.
The documentary loose change was really good at presenting evidence about 9/11 to make you think that the government really did plan the whole thing. Like the part where they showed the pictures of the pentagon, and the pictures of the airplane. The video also did a good job of showing the twin towers going down, and showing demolitions of buildings. It made it seem like it could have been a controlled demolition.
Something that I don't think the video did a good job of though was explaining what happened to the people who died in the airplanes. The video claimed that maybe the airplanes didn't really crash, but then what about the people who died in the airplanes?
I don't believe that the government had a plan to blow up the twin towers and kill thousands of people. I think that it really was a terrorist attack. The video did a good job of pointing things out though that seem suspicious.
http://www.america.gov/st/pubs-english/2007/March/20070330134723abretnuh0.9919245.html
http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=8340
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loose_Change_(video)
This video is very convincing. Before seeing this all i knew was the twin towers were hit and fell and we were under attack. But i personally choose not to believe what they say. I ts hard to think that our country would do such a thing.
They say that the pentagon magicaly had another hole on the other side with not too much damage. The grass had absolutly no skids marks on it and the wings supossedly just werent left behind to the crash of the building. I think that if america was really under attack they wouldnt hide any information. These people who caused such a tragedy knew exactly what thye were doing. They knew exactly where to fly those planes and exactly where to hit. I believe there were bombs placed in the building. I know the plane is larg, but that building is very big and strong, and to see those buildings go down within 10 seconds is hard to think that just one plane could do that, dont you think?
The people who made this video showed horrible images and videos that i scared me. When they said that police officers knew that there were only so many terroist on the plane and the phone calls were fake, made me sick! How do they know, they werent really there!
I believe similar to Taylor, I believe that the towers were hit by a plane and also bombs were set inside by sick people... I guess we may never know the real truth. But why would they want to start this is hard to understand.
The video "Loose Change" that we watched in Mr. Sinks' class contained a lot of information about the 9/11 incident. However, most of the things that were offered as evidence were opinions of people that said they witnessed it. There were, however, pictures that could probably swing either way. Pictures can be tampered with, but I don't see why a video producer who stated "these views are not biased by the creators of this film" would lie about something so trivial. Though some of these things we watched in the film can be ruled out, there are certain things that raise a few questions.
Let's examine the claim that the plane that crashed into the pentagon hit the ground first, skid, knocked over light poles, and then hit the pentagon. When the site was examined, there was no evidence of a plane skidding at all. The only evidence was knocked over light poles, but no skid marks. Also, the question is raised about the jet turbines. The turbines were made of steel. After hitting the pentagon at a speed upward of 500 mph they left no impression other than a round hole for the body of the plane. What is that all about???
As for my view, I believe that we were attacked that day not by our government, but by some outside force that wanted to cause us pain. I am however, open to the fact that there are a few pieces that don't quite fit together. These include the pentagon issue which I've already told you about, the "demolition" flashes shown in some of the slow-mo pictures, and the record of Flight 93 landing somewhere in Pittsburgh. They raise quite a few good questions, but I don't see our government doing something to cause so much pain to the American people. This link will show you why I believe it was not our government. http://www.popularmechanics.com/te
chnology/military_law/1227842.html
The documentary “Loose Change” does present valid points, but it presents some far-fetched ones as well. One important fact about 9/11 is that our government did know that the trade towers were prime targets. In a statement made on May 6, 2002, Condoleeza Rice says “I don't think anybody could have predicted that these people would take an airplane and slam it into the World Trade Center.” This and other similar statements are complete lies. Not only had the government released Terrorism manuals that suggested the Twin Towers as prime targets for an attack, they even suggested that planes might be used. With all of our government security and high class missiles, they could have targeted the planes and prevented them from crashing into the Twin Towers. NORAD, the North American Aerospace Defense Command, is the defense shield that normally protects the United States against all forms of airborne attack, including by hijacked aircraft. Any time an aircraft deviates from its course, air traffic controllers request a military intercept according to military response code 7610-4J. Intercept times are especially short in the east-coast corridor where there are numerous bases with combat-ready aircraft on continuous alert. On September 11th, however, the standard operating procedures were apparently suspended. The attacks on the twin Towers would work to the advantage of the Government, and they saw this.
(http://911research.wtc7.net/planes/norad/background.html)
The main problem with this film is that it, just like the media, has the ability to lie. The poor quality videos showing bombs going off inside the buildings could have easily been made up. But all the people that heard bombs and the firefighters that were inside the Towers as they were being attacked prove that there were bombs. And the fact that the government claims that the red box’s from the planes were not found yet a passport of a terrorist was? That is hard to believe. The government used the attacks for their own motives. The war in Iraq that began “in order to find the terrorists” was used by our government to occupy and control wealth in the Middle East. Once again, our government used a false reason to gain power and wealth from war.
My opinion of the “Loose Change” film is that it has many valid points, but unneeded claims are added. The filmmakers did not need so much evidence. They should have just focused on a few key points and made them clear and understandable. Our government let thousands of innocent people die so they could prosper. Our military, which is so good a bombing other countries, could have prevented the planes from hitting the Twin Towers. This film is good in the sense that it encourages people to think for themselves, and not believe everything the government tells them. However, one does not need a film to see the corruptness of our leaders, and their false justifications for war.
Ok as much as I hate the idea of the United States attacking its self to start a war, the possibility of this being a conspiracy is kind of clear to me. First I looked at the tape of the pentagon being hit by the “Airliner” (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12818225/) they say the white streak in the bottom of the screen is the plane, but it is much too small to be an aircraft the size they claim it is. Plus there is no marks left by the wings!! This just doesn’t add up to me.
This other site tries very hard to prove that it was an airplane, but it still doesn’t look possible to me! (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread79655/pg1) Then I went to another site that tries to prove it was a conspiracy. (http://www.freedomfiles.org/war/pentagon.htm) this guy uses a lot of opinions, but they all seem to make sense to me!
I just want to know what really happened! Is it possible for our own country to attack itself? Why would our government lie to us? I just need some answers!!
The whole idea of this being set up just blows my mind. I think that this stuff has alot of viable points that could make people think twice about who really did this on 9/11. I think that this guy who made the documentary had alot of points and evidence that backs up his idea's
I think that i could have easily been set up. Just because of the big point of how the Twin towers just burnt down with a low burnt rate...witch in fact is a very good point concidering that the towers couldnt just burn down in a perfect pile. It just doesnt add up and I back up the author in this one.
I like these kind of things that you get to sit and look at both sides of what could have happend or what happend. Yeah the governtment have some good points on how it happend but how the guy points out everything and backs up his points with evidence. its not like he just made it all up and I back him up and think that it was set up.
http://www.pehi.eu/disinformation/911/2005_07_21_Michael_Green_Loose_Change_analysis.htm
I also agree with Ryan and Jason. Our government is corrupt and has issues, but it seems unlikely that they'd go to those extremes. The nature of Loose change was to get the watchers to believe that 9/11 was a set up. The movie was very convincing, but then again, that was the point of the movie. Presenting quotes, documents, etc. that make this act seem planned is common throughout the whole movie. For example, the movie is started with the staged terrorist attacks on Cuba in 1962. That alone makes the government look bad and crazy enough to do something drastic.
Not only did the movie show previous planned events, but it also showed videos of the planes crashing into the Pentagon and the Towers. The Pentagon videos were low quality and very short. Anyone could be convinced if they're only shown a small bit of evidence that seems like it could make the idea of a planned attack plausible.
In all honesty, I have no idea what to think about the Twin Towers. The whole thing is too confusing to me. I don't necessarily think that the government planned it, but I do think they knew it was coming. They had drills made in the event of terrorist attacks, and they knew that the Towers were a prime target. Either way, the government is, in part, to blame.
I Believe in 100% of the video. Loose Change shows how the government has tried to cover up what happend. What happend with the pentagon is the most internesting thing of it all. On novembuary 22nd 2004 a private jet on route to pick up george bush senior clipped a single light pole and crashed a minute away from landing at houstons hobby hairport. the wing ripped off apon inpact scattering debree over a hundred yards. But yet flight 77 managed to tear 5 lightpoles completely out of the ground maintaining enough control and energy to crash into the groundfloor of the pentagon. The plane did not skid across the ground and then hit the pentagon.. there wasnt a single scratch on the grass. no trace of flight 77, no evidence of a plane crashing into the pentagon. no tail sections, wing sections left. only small pieces that can be lifted by hand. Official report is that the intense heat from the jet fuel vaporized the plane. ok so if the fire was hot enough to incinerate a jumbo jet then how could investigators identify 184/189 people found at the pentagon?. flight 77 had 2 rolls- Royce RB211 engines made of steel and titanium alloid witch are 9 feet in diameter 12 feet long and weigh 6 tons each. Titanium has a melting point of 1688 degrees celsius. jet fuel is a hydrocarbon witch can matain a constant temp of 1120 degrees celsius, after 40 mins. but only if the fuel source is maintained. witch is nowhere near the 1688 required to melt the engines. also the fuel would have burnt off emediatly after impact. therefore it is scientificaly imposible for 12 tons of steel and titanium was vaporized by jet fuel. the 2 engines should have been found relatively in tact at the pentagon. no damage to the pentagon where the wings or the vertical stabalizer or the engines would have slammed into the building. if 6 tons of steel and titanium slammed into the pentagon at 530 mph they would burry themselvs inside the building. leaving 2 very destinct imprints.
I Believe in the cruise missle theory
Milosevic's home after being hit by a cruise missle. http://www.serendipity.li/wot/xymphora/sm-home.jpg
see any simalarities? http://www.serendipity.li/wot/pentagon_punch_out.jpg
Cordite could be smelled at the pentagon. cordite is a compound used in amunition, its cool burning but produces a strong detination wave. And how to explain that c-130? possibly carring the missle?.. maybe.
This movie was very convincing but I don’t see how our government would do something so huge and kill so many people just for money and maybe to destroy a few files. And then they go and spend all that money on the war? They end up losing billions of dollars. The whole theory just doesn’t make sense to me.
http://www.america.gov/st/pubs-english/2007/March/20070330134723abretnuh0.9919245.html
This article above shows how the movie is wrong as well as how they made it seem so convincing. After reading this article I know that it was impossible for a missile to hit the pentagon, if a missile hit the pentagon then why was there a bunch of scrap metal from an airplane and parts of an airplane engine? Another argument is that the world trade centers where brought down by a controlled demolition and people heard “secondary explosions” but when you think about one of the biggest building in the world falling down don’t you except to hear some odd things that might sound like an explosion?
Overall I think the movie was very interesting to watch but totally false. All it is is a conspiracy theory. The attacks on the world trade center and the pentagon where done by terrorist and our government had absolutely nothing to do with it.
“Loose Change” presents many valid points to consider. In fact it provides so many it cannot be refuted, or so it seems that way. The narrator begins with an intriguing score and begins to bombard you with ‘facts.’ Before you even have a chance to question what you are told, you are overwhelmed by another fact that backs up the first, at least that is how it first seems. Upon a slower and deeper analysis quite a few ‘facts’ become exaggerated and less likely. Some of the scariest ‘facts’ are those of the inconsistencies in the Bush Administration. You have National Security Advisor Condi Rice claiming, “I don’t think anybody could have predicted that these people would take an airplane and slam it into the World Trade Center.” Then you have another White House informant, Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld, saying, “There were lots of warnings.” And lastly you have Press Secretary, Ari Fleischer, exclaiming, “No warnings.” Don’t you think that if the Bush Administration had set up 9/11 as an inside job they would at least give consistent statements and have the story straight between them? As for all the so called ‘experts’ giving there opinions and then changing them, as if the U.S. Government had forced them to, that one can only be chalked up to the media. Following 9/11 journalists and news anchors were pressing anyone who might have the expertise to give an explanation. As to no upset the media ‘experts’ gave opinions before any analysis, then after taking second-, third-, and fourth-looks they came up with correct conclusions. So either this was absolutely, most definitely the greatest fraud ever, by lets face it – one of our most dimwitted Presidents, or it was an attack against American citizens by extremist Muslims known as al Qaeda.
Now to the so called evidence – lets begin with American Airlines Flight 77 and the Pentagon. Loose Change begins its case by saying that the engine was Titanium alloy with Titanium having a melting point of 1688 degrees Celsius and it was ‘vaporized’ by a hydrocarbon jet fuel with a burning temperature of 1120 degrees Celsius. The first fault is that an alloy of any metal will change its melting temperature drastically. Second the jet fuel could have mixed with anything, most obviously oxygen; and according to Wikipedia an oxyhydrogen fire (oxygen and hydrogen from the jet fuel) can burn in upwards of 2000 degrees Celsius, well above Titanium’s melting point. Likewise the absence of engine turbines found is accounted for. The narrator then trails off to say that the piece of any American Airlines airplane was scratch less, from the picture shown you can see two things: it has a black gouge towards the middle, and it got ripped off the airplane, last I checked if the door is missing off your car it is a little bit worse than any scratch. And to finish the Pentagon case they show a diagram of the outside of a diffuser case telling us to study closely for triangle bevels. When the evidence is shown, the show us the inner ring. That is like telling us to read an essay through card stock paper. Then they discredit themselves by saying the wings should have gone through ring E, but previously say that they should have been ripped off by the light poles. As for the cordite smell who is to say that the hijacker didn’t carry a bomb with him? It doesn’t add up in at the Pentagon.
Now on to the WTC, I’ll make this one fairly short and sweet. According to Loose Change the fires in the WTC burned around 2000F and according to http://northshorejournal.org/index.php/2007/04/fire-causes-major-collapse-911-truth at just 1000F a ten foot steel beam expands close to 1-½ inches. This would mean that at a meager 1000F fire the steel beams would expand much to much to allow the rivets to hold the building together. As for the supposedly mysterious planes and the flashes during the collapse I cannot account for. Although I can tell you that with that fuzzy of pictures I could show you a picture of a truck and make it look like a bulldozer with very little alteration, if any.
What I am getting at is that there is NO way possible for Bush and his comrades to pull this off, and the numbers do add up if you look at them correctly. I am not by any means saying that this event didn’t aid Bush and his quest for oil and money, or that his administration is uncorrupt. The plain truth is that an Islamic extremist group planned and choreographed one of the best/worst terrorist attacks the world has ever seen.
If you don’t believe me here is a link to disprovings of some of the most popular 9/11 myths:
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html
ps – this website has some weak arguments, but all in all it provides some interesting information
the main thing that i saw happening during 9/11 was the video evidence that all the witnesses had and that were showing them to the public and i think that they were real and not fake.
during the explotions on the towers i pesonaly think that the U.S had a lot to do with it. One reason is that i heard that a lot unnamed boxes were placed in the towers with outhorization of the brother of bush.
The other reason why i think that is because the heat from the jet fuel wasn't hot enogh to melt the main support of the buildings, but when the inveatigations were going on they foun that the supports were melted and therefore i think that bonbs were placed on the buildings before 9/11.
The 3rd reason why i theink that the U.S had some thing to do with the disaster was becuse the FBI said that they only found 1 box from the flights and a firefighter claims that 3 boxes were found and they were never reveled to the public and i wonde why?
Well this vidio gives you many reasons to believe that the 9/11 is a complete scam. All i can think about while watching it is thinking about how impossible even the thought of it is.
Its Crazy to think that U.S. would even consider ending lives and making a national terror. But throughout the video it keeps feeding more and more evidence and proof to how it could possibly have been scammed and so many lies.
After watching the entire video my thoughts are definetly that the U.S. government had done this with a purpose that no one knows about at the moment. It definetly scared me and i told many people about it and they all think I am crazy for even thinking it, but the facts seem to be there but it is still hard to believe.
I believe that George Bush planned the 911 attack in the twin towers. One of the reason why I think that because why didn’t George Bush do anything about it? The government hid the evidence to the public. In the video they didn’t really mention Building 7 at the World Trade Center. This building was bomb proof, bullet roof windows; it made its own air and water supplies. The reason that the government would have you believe for building 7 falling into a perfectly pile of ruble consistent with a controlled demolition is that fires broke out from the collapse of the twin towers causing structural damage to Building 7. Their story supports the fact that the bombs planted in the Twin Towers and then set off after the planes hit. These buildings are HUGE and have so much wiring and heating in them that something like. Obviously I don’t believe the thoughts in this video, yet convincing. I think one out of thousands in this country thinking our government is corrupt decided to make a video disproving 9/11.
“Loose Change” is a loosely assembled proposition that the United States government deliberately planned and executed the “terrorist” attacks of 9/11. It details the oh-so-apparent reasons why anybody believing otherwise is suffering from misperception. It suggests that the rest of America is in total oblivion regarding the events of September 11, 2001, and are completely unaware as to what really happened on that day.
The video does present, what seem to be, many valid reasons for believing that the “attacks” were indeed implemented by none other than our own government. The documentary also presents many poor quality video footages that may possess less significance than which is implied. Another thing that puzzles me is the following: if all of these facts add up, and this actually may be an honest-to-god corruption, then why hasn’t anybody of any public power stood up and said so? Do some public figures feel as if this information is true, but are reluctant to go against the rest of the U.S. government because they are aware of the ramifications of doing so? Who knows?
I definitely feel that the video presents some excellent points, and that it is a very nice project put together by the creator. I do think that some of ideas are “pushing it” in terms of conspiracy, but they’re still possibilities never-the-less. As for reviewing documentation that promotes the opposite views, and “debunks” all of the theories found in “Loose Change,” I would recommend checking out the following link: http://www.loosechangeguide.com/LooseChangeGuide.html
Aside from that, I truly don’t know what to believe about 9/11. I know that you should always look and analyze beyond what meets the eye, but at this point in time, I do not yet know what conclusion I draw. I would say that both are viable possibilities, and that I plan on doing much more research on the topic to arrive at a final decision.
An interesting piece of evidence is the 5 light poles that were knocked over. They said that a missle was launched, but if that was true it couldn't knock down 5 poles without exploding. They also said that the hole in the biulding had no evidence of damage from the planes wings. If a plane never hit the pentagon, how were the light poles knocked down?
Some things that had me convinced were, the cell phones. How were those calls made? They stated that cell phones could not make calls that high in the air, but they have multiple calls from passengers. Also, the twin towers and how they fell so soon. They had alot of evidence from experts that said that all that jet fuel would have to be burning for hours and hours for the towers to fall.
I believe that 9/11 was a terrorist attack. I dont believe that the government was behind killing 3,000 people. Watching loose change though does get you thinking about other possibilities.
I think the bit about the light poles raised good questions like: If it was not a cruise missle than why did the FBI take all tha tapes and tell all the witnesses to keep their mouths shut? theres also the question about the hole in the pentagon. Im pretty sure you cannot fit a 747 through a hole that small. there is a good amount of evidence that supports both sides of the argument and I am not sure that our governmen is exactly telling the truth. but then again when has the government ever told the whole truth?
I think the government is responsible for the pentagon and also the twin towers.This video has certainly gave me many questions on how our country is run and who is leading it.
Watching Loose Change made it hard for me to believe that our government had staged this attack on America. Some of the evidence that was presented was very true, but at the same time was no where close. I think it's hard for me to believe these "facts" because we never heard about these things on the news. All we've ever know is that we were attacked by terrorists.
I did find it to be suspicious that the trade center had removed all bomb sniffing dogs from the towers just before the attack. Also all the statistics that were presented from the stock market, it almost seemed like we knew it was coming. Also, the information presented about the attack on the pentagon was interesting. the footage that was shown made it seem impossible for a plane to make the attack. And the fact that there were little remains from the air plane seemed strange.
Above all, i do believe that 9/11 was an attack by terrorists, and I do not believe that our own government planned this. I dont think are government is that *twacked out
I dont know what side to belive.Its very possible the government planned 9/11. But it is also very possible the media is trying to persuay the minds of amaricans to belive it was the government.
After watching the movie Loose Change the posiblities of the government planning the atacks became greater in my mind. And if none of the information in the media is true why is the government refusing to realise information and footage of 9/11?
We dont really know what went on that day and personally I dont think we ever will. We might find more evidence but the government will always deny everything and only they will know the truth.
Who assaulted us on September 11, 2001? Was it a huge scheme that uninhabited American intelligence has developed or was it an intended assault by a grouping of terrorists that despise the American citizens? Hm...you make a decision. In February 1998, Osama Bin Ladin and four others questioned a self-appointed fatwa, widely affirmed that it was God’s order that the entire Muslim society must try his greatest to slay any American, military or resident, anywhere in the humankind, because of American "employment" of Islam’s holy places and hostility towards Muslims. Yet Loose Change would have us consider that no, it wasn't terrorism that assaulted us that day, it was our own government.
The film gave good facts about the Twin Towers being brought down by explosives. Still if an association took the time to plan such an assault on the American citizens, why didn't they also take the time to get somebody on the inside, plant the bombs, and make the assault more of a success? As the Washington Post reported; "Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat appointed the assault as well, even though some Palestinians in Israeli-occupied territories and Lebanon celebrated with amusement." On that day freedom and liberty, justice, and everything America stands for was assaulted, yet people still use those freedoms to put together how our government intended to assaults the Twin Towers and the Pentagon, when people in the Middle East were CELEBRATING?
I believe the the government personally assaulted the Twin Towers and the Pentagon. So they can invade them to make a oil line through their country and their surrounding countries. I also think the government messed up when they assaulted the Pentagon and that plane crash by not leaving debris from old plane crashes to make it more convincing that it was a terrorist attack.
Watching this video made me realize that everything the news feeds us isn’t always believable. This video had very interesting views on how the government actually caused everything that happened during 9/11. Eye witnesses stated that a lot of the things presented actually did happen, but it’s hard to believe a video when they only interview people that saw what they wanted to see. Things presented in pictures also could have been tampered with to curve in favor of this film as well.
The most interesting point proved in this video was the plane crashing into the pentagon and the how they presented so much evidence on how the Twin Towers shouldn’t have collapsed. When they said that plane engines were made of titanium alloy, and that there is no way that they could have melted under the degree the building burned at. Also the light posts that weren’t hit were very interesting. The fact that the Twin Towers fell under the planes hitting was bizarre, because this video presented past towers that didn’t fall even after hours and hours of burning. Only after an hour or so, the Twin Towers fell, this shouldn’t have happened. The fact that small explosions happened during the building being hit really makes you think about our government, and what side they really are on.
What do I think happened on 9/11? At first I thought that Arab men stole a couple plans and hit our buildings, causing thousands of Americans lives. After watching this video though, I actually believe that there was more to it then just the planes hitting us. I believe that bombs really were planted in the buildings before, and some Americans actually did help these things to happen. I believe some Americans really did know about the 9/11 attack, because why would they take bomb sniffing dogs out? It just doesn’t make sense to why the government would do that.
http://www.truthout.org/docs_03/091903C.shtml
I don't think anyone will realy know what happened on the day of 9/11. But I think the terrist are the one responsible for it.
The government i think could have done something to prevent it but I don't think the government would do something like that loose change gave good evidence. But with the things you can do on a computer these days. You can't really believe everything you see.
How can the makers of loose change. Be the only one that saw the smoke coming out of the buildings before they fell down. Their has to be thousands of people that saw the building fall.
For my thoughts on the conspiracy go to the link below.
http://www.freepressinternational.com/911.html
On the day of September 11th, 2001 what I really believe happened was a conspiracy. With people not knowing what hit the twin towers leads me to believe that somewhere out there someone knows the real truth behind what really happened. The lives that have been lost should have never happened and even if it really was Osama Bin Laden and the Al Qaeda it was our President George W. Bush who was behind it.
George Bush right now is fighting his daddy’s war. The Bin Laden family lives in the states and Bush is trying to protect them. There must be a reason behind the fact that we can find Saddam Hussein in a rat hole but we have been searching for Osama Bin Laden for over seven years now. Is it coincidence that the Bin Laden family owns over 7% of America and we can’t find him? I think not.
September 11th, 2001 has come and passed but our lives don’t move on. Our buildings will never be the same again and our country will forever be scarred. If President Bush would have never been our president starting in 2000 and Al Gore, who mind you had the popular vote, was elected in would the tragedy of 9/11 happened? I really don’t believe that it would have.
Loose Change
What really happened on 9/11 questions the whole United States. I was unaware of all of these conspiracies till about a couple months ago. I will admit I was quite interested. The three attacks on the US are ALL questionable. The attack on the Pentagon is the one that stands out the most to me. The tapes show the plane running straight into the pentagon. But there are no markings on the grass. That’s very questionable to me. If you imagine something driving through your yard you imagine grass being torn apart and plants ruined. This wasn’t the case for the pentagon. Also there was a gas station close to the pentagon that got the entire crash on camera. The government took the tape from them and they have never released it since. There was also question about the engine. It seems that the engine that should have been in the plane.
The other one that was very convincing was the flight crashed into a field near the town of Shanksville in rural Somerset County, Pennsylvania. What was so crazy about this incident was that there was no residue. NO ONE person no blood. No piece or part to the plane. But another plane at the same time with the same amount of passengers landed and that flight was not supposed to land. The passengers were unloaded in record timing with the amount of people on board into a room and they were never found.
The Twin tower incident was very weird too. The fact that it stood for a certain amount of time and there were 3 bombs that erupted that enabled the tower to completely collapse. Also the tower had bomb evacuation the week prior to the hijack.
I believe that the Government knew about the attacks but they didn’t want to do anything about it. Well they sort of couldn’t do anything about it. It was happening before their eyes. Yet I’m still confused as to why the government won’t release the REAL evidence to prove all the conspiracies were wrong. So once the government releases the evidence we have no way of saying who’s right and who’s wrong!
There are many opinions on what happened on 9/11. About how the twin towers fall and how the pentagon was hit.
There is also alot of edvidence to back up each theory on how the trade centers and pentagon was hit But, there are also alot of unexplained reasonings. Such as how the light poles were hit and where the airplane is if the pentagon wasn't hit by the airplane.
I believe that the attack on 9/11 was a terrorist attack. I think that the attack was well planned out.
The whole idea of this being set up just blows my mind. I think that this stuff has alot of viable points that could make people think twice about who really did this on 9/11. I think that this guy who made the documentary had alot of points and evidence that backs up his idea's
I think that i could have easily been set up. Just because of the big point of how the Twin towers just burnt down with a low burnt rate...witch in fact is a very good point concidering that the towers couldnt just burn down in a perfect pile. It just doesnt add up and I back up the author in this one.
I like these kind of things that you get to sit and look at both sides of what could have happend or what happend. Yeah the governtment have some good points on how it happend but how the guy points out everything and backs up his points with evidence. its not like he just made it all up and I back him up and think that it was set up.
http://www.pehi.eu/disinformation/911/2005_07_21_Michael_Green_Loose_Change_analysis.htm
Some evidence that was left out a bit was the attack on the Pentagon.I don't see why they would think a missle did all that damage. It was not very convincing to me at all.
The Twin Towers attack to me seems more believable. But still, questionable. Their story supports the fact that their were bombs planted in the Twin Towers and then set off after the planes hit. But these buildings are able to withstand many natural disasters, and yet can't withstand a plane crash, hmm.
Obviously I disbelieve the thoughts in this video,even though it was convincing, I still think it is fake. I still think terrorists were planning this for a long time.
Loose change is a movie that has only one purpose. Its puropose is to make the viewer beleive that our president and the government can not be trusted. It does this by showing video clips of things that look like its something that it is not. For example, it showed tiny explosions in the twin towers 10 floors below where the planes hit right before they fell. They were saying that those explosions were bombs set by the government to make sure that the buildings fell. The evidence that they gave the viewer for this hypothesis is that a couple days before 9/11, the government closed down the buildings so that only they can be inside so that they could plant the bombs.
I think that that is the stupidest thing I have ever heard. There is absolutely no gain for our government for the world trade centers to be destroyed. It only hurts them. And I think that showing clips of little explosions below where the planes hit does not indicated that they were bombs. When a plane hits a building, then you are probably not going to see things that you would not expect. For all we know, the plane hitting the building could have made other things inside blow up.
I believe that on the day of 9/11, there was a terrorist attack on the world trade centers, among other attacks like on the pentigon. It was definently not a planned attack from our government like this stupid movie indicates. On 9/11 many people lost their lives, and many people lost family members and friends. Maybe our government could have done a better job at preventing this attack, but I know that they would not plan it.
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html
http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channelid=75&contentid=2307&page=2
This video makes you think, it's hard to imagine that it could have been our government. There was a lot of information left open and unexplained, like the light poles. If a plane didn't hit them them what did, but also the last time a plane hit a light pole it ripped off the wing of the plane.
The Twin Towers, were made to withstand almost anything, planes high winds, fire, I don't understand how they fell so fast. As for the bombs that were supposedly planted who's to say that it wasn't the enemy. All the government has to do is show America some surveillance tapes.
I believe that it was a terrorist attack, I don't think our government would plan to kill thousands of innocent people, and make America suffer.
A piece of evidence that is missing is the families that had people on the planes. That crashed into all the buildings. He had no one that had family on the planes speech. Because even a lunatic knows you can't make people disappear.
You already know what happened with my parents they very much disliked the fact that I was even watching that video, even more that the video was saying that it wasn't planes that crashed into these buildings. But, I also talked to someone this weekend that thought it was a conspiracy theory. But hey, this is why we have freedom of speech and freedom of choice.
You pick whatever side you want but look at which side is justified. Sure they make it look like their side is justified. But look at all the stuff we can do with computers these days. Why would someone go and kill so many of their own people. The Government is not that messed up. So obviously I think it was a terrorist attack.
A web site that is very useful is
http://911review.com/articles/griffin/nyc1.html#twintowers
March 17, 2008 8:53 AM
The video "Loose Change" started by stating crazy ideas that they prove to be correct. It presents the fact that the government planned the whole thing out or just knew everything that was going to happen before hand.
One thing that couldn't be explained and that the video used to prove a point, is that when the plane crashed into the pentagon, everything melted and there was no evidence showing that a plane had crashed their. The thing that doesn't make sense is the plane engines were made of titanium alloy and it wouldn't be possible to melt that type of metal at the temperature the building was burning at. Those buildings were designed to withstand a plane crash but it makes no sence that the buildings fell because of the plane. Also if it was fire that made it callapse then that doesn't seem likely because in the video they showed a lot of buildings that caught on fire but all of them didn't callapse, so that makes the twin towers the only buildings that callapsed during a fire.
My opinion is that the government had something to do to with it if not all. I believe this because the video states a lot of facts to prove this and it seems like there is a lot that is being covered up by the government, so if they weren't completly responsible for this then the must of known and just not did nothing about it. It seems like it is being covered up because as soon as it happened there were government people saying things like they knew this was gonna happen and how there were clues to something like this happenning, but later something made then change their minds because they said the complete opposite things.
"Loose Change" can be a very misleading video to those who are not aware of the facts. There is no convincing argument which will lead a well-informed individual to believe the U.S. government would plot this terrorist attack.
One of the many flaws in "Loose Change's" claims is that, although they claim that the plane which crashed into the Pentagon was not a commercial plane, there are clear pictures of the wreckage which have windows. The pieces of the plane which were scattered throughout the site are obviously not that of a military jet. Another argument they use is that the World Trade Center had bombs planted, because explosions were seen on the lower floors before the towers went down. This can easily be explained, however, by electrical fires or objects bursting under the pressure. To back up their arguments, the makers of this film used quotes- many from firemen and witnesses of the twin towers attack. When putting this quotes in context, one can see how dishonest "Loose Change" is. They made it sound like the fireman were describing a planned demolition, when in reality they were describing the explosions and falling of the towers, just as it happened.
I completely believe that the attacks on 9/11 were carried out by Osama bin Laden and his group in the Middle East. The video made it sound like Osama had no apparent reason to dislike our nation, and that George Bush was a friend of his. That was an absolutely ridiculous suggestion. The radical Muslims in the Middle East have long resented us since we supported Israel as a nation. Their religion calls for the destruction of all who are not followers of Islam and, in their beliefs, that justifies the horrific acts they carried out on 9/11. All things considered, there is no evidence that our government had any part in the attacks. For further proof that the 9/11 conspiracy theory is a bunch of lies, go to:
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html
http://www.debunking911.com/
I do not believe hardly any of the movie Loose Change. While it is interesting and rather amusing it just doesn’t make sense. I think that the government probably knew what was going to happen or at least had a rough idea but also knew that they had no way to stop it.
Supposedly, the government has footage of an airplane crashing into the pentagon. If so, why is it yet to be released??? The government knows the real truth of what happened and they are too ashamed to share it with us.
To me, the movie Loose Change has too many “Loose ends” to be considered a good source or a fact. Too much is left up in the air so to speak and most of it is downright ridiculous. Here are two websites that have the same opinion as me:
http://www.america.gov/st/pubs-english/2007/March/20070330134723abretnuh0.9919245.html
http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/green/loose_change.html
After watching "Loose Change" it convinced me that our Government did plan it because everything they said sounded true. Yet they could have changed some facts to make it sound like it was our government that planned it. I think some of the things they said were true but some were changed to benefit what they believe really happened on 9/11. For example this website gives examples of some things that they said were not backed up by good evidence.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loose_Change_(video)
"the first and second editions asserted that a missile hit the pentagon, but Loose Change Final Cut presents two scenarios, saying that” opinions differ" about whether or not Flight 77 hit the pentagon." Loose Change is very convincing but could our government really want to hurt so many people?
Loose Change had a lot of evidence saying that our government was the one who planned this attack on the twin towers. Example how their were explosives implanted into the building and how the towers burned down, but they were made of steel and steel burns at 3000 degrees and the towers burned at 2000 degrees. so how is it that the towers burned down.
I don’t really know what i think about this whole situation. I hear one thing and another and they all sound very convincing that it's hard for me to say that i believe our government did it or that our government didn't plan it. I am very confused and i don’t really know what to say about 9/11.
The video "Loose Change" does a good job making the viewer believe that the attack on the Pentagon and Twin Towers was a planned one by the U.S. government. I believe that (after reading other articles) the attack on 9/11 was not planned by the U.S. government, but rather truly was an attack by terrorists.
http://www.america.gov/st/pubs-english/2007/March/20070330134723abretnuh0.9919245
The above link "debunks" the theory of the video Loose Change. One thing that this website states is that it was impossible for the Pentagon to be hit by a missle because the ground level hole was much bigger than only 16 feet wide. The video Loose Change only shows the small hole created by the tail of the airplane. It does not show the large hole created by the body of the plane. There are many other proofs in the article against Loose Change that clearly shows that the video was a conspiracy.
I believe that the attack on 9/11 was by terrorists. Although the video Loose Change made it seem believable that the U.S. government was behind the whole thing, I do not believe that our government would take the lives of thousands of people from their own country. I believe that the terrorists really did not like the United States and planned to try and destroy our country. I do not believe that the government staged the attack on 9/11.
Loose Change is a very convincing collection of videos, research and opinions that points the finger at our own government.
Sure, the video of the collapse of the trade center towers were very akward since it showed explosions and it's also weird that the red boxes from the airplanes (which are supposed to be indestructable) vanished, but i dont think that anyone has the right to accuse anyone else of being a terrorist. Even if the governmet set the whole thing up they dont have the right to tell the rest of the U.S that they KNOW who did it. The honest answer is that nobody knows what really happened.
I do think that it was an act of terrorism, but i have no opinion as to who did it. It is not right for me to say something like, " oh yes it had to be those iraqies!" I think that the United States needs to move on.
The documentary "Loose Change", which takes a closer look at what happened on 9/11, blames our government for the attack. The video presents some very strong arguments, it could probably almost convince George Bush himself, but I don't believe that it was all true. In the video it states that our own government helped to carry out the attack by placing bombs inside the World Trade Centers. In some respect this could be believable because if we didn't put the bombs there, who did?... and got away with it?
They also said that there is no evidence that some of the "missing planes" ever crashed, but different planes were found at the crash sites. If this was so, where are the people and the planes that didn't crash now? I mean can you really just lose a massive aircraft?
Although I believe that most of this movie is just a conspiracy theory, it gets me thinking about the whole attack. I don't feel like the pieces add up. If our government really didn't want this to happen I believe we would of had the means to stop it. If we have always known that the Twin Towers were a potential target for terrorist attacks, we should have been more prepared.
I do believe that this was an inside government job. I trully think they did it just to get back at the president and make him look bad. The whole party of democrats were already upset that he was president to begin with. O do think that he terrorists may have been in coalition with the governtment to pull it off.
The author of this video has shown so many facts and details about how it is an inside job, that i am convinced. From the light poles to how the structure of such a massive building could have been so easily demolished, completely showa that there had to of been some inside help.
Over all I think that or government planned out the attack and just needed some assistance to fully accomplish it.
September 11, 2001: a date that will forever go down as one of the most controversial days in American history. Did the government really meticulously plan out the attacks on the World Trade Centers to gain the fear of the American people? Would they really ever do that to us? Did Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan or any other place really have anything to do with the attacks? Does anyone even know the truth?
These are all questions I myself and many others seem to be asking ourselves even to this day. America is often portrayed as “the promise land,” or “the land of the free and home of the brave.” Other countries quite often place America on a pedestal, hoping and praying that someday they might live and be Americans. So we ask ourselves, how could something as horrible as 9/11/01 happen to us?
Sorry folks. The answer is not that simple or maybe not even be known! Ask yourself this question: have you ever heard a definite answer to what REALLY happened on 9/11? We see the movies like “Loose Change” and “Fahrenheit 9/11” and we have watched all the news stories, read the articles, etc. but none seem to have ALL the facts to back their stories up. There are always the little loop holes that you catch onto and then scratch your head. The movie “Loose Change” shows that even some of the biggest head honchos of the United States of America couldn’t keep their stories and opinions straight about September 11, 2001.
On the contrary, films like “Loose Change” are made to persuade others. They are made to manipulate. Something I find a little hypocritical about this film is that the film makers accuse the government of lying, manipulating and trying to scare the American people. Sound familiar? The film personally had me believing every word until I looked up some of the information and found it not all to be true and most of it just theory. Also, the movie scared the hell out of me, as well as 9/11 did too.
Personally I do believe that 9/11 was a terrorist attack. I have not been provided with enough facts to believe otherwise and won’t unless I am. I will stand by my country and refuse to believe that our government would plan something so horrific, but it is very hard to do so with the information that is leaking out.
In so many ways Loose change makes you question the governments intentions and possible affiliations with the attacks on the Twin Towers and the Pentagaon. All of the points and information in the video make you think twice about what really happened. Some evidence in the video I agree with and some I don't.
A point I do agree with is their points on the pentagon. If a plane did hit what happened to the remains? To reply to the light pole statements, if the wings of a plane knocked down those light posts then where are the damage points from the wings on the Pentagon? The only way the wings of the plane could have knocked out the light posts and not hit the pentagon is by somehow getting detached from the plane in which they wouldn't have been vaporized in the eliged fuel fire with the rest of the plane, So where are they?
The most compelling evidence given in Loose Change is the video clips on the explosions inside the Twin Towers as they collapsed. There is indisputable proof that there were explosions that caused the demolition of the towers. No fire nor fault in the structure was found that would cause the same affect. If the bombs were put there by the terrorists is yet to be determined but there is no doubt that there were explosions multiple floors below the falling building.
Here's a link to a documentary on the different opinions and reasonings about 9/11
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7866929448192753501
After watching the documentary it states that the boeing 757 crashed into the wall of the pentagon but, before it hit the pentagon it clipped 5 light poles. The evidence about if it really was the boeing 757 that hit the pentagon is. If it really did clip 5 light poles then how did it still have enough force to hit the building and not hit the grass and that if it was a boeing 757 then how is there no evidence of the plane. The only edvidence of a plan are small parts.
The other arguement is about if there was or wasn't bombs in the trade center. The evidence for beliving that there where bombs invloved is because, the towers fell straight to the ground. In the video it shows buildngs that had fires that never fell to the ground.
On 9/11 I believe that it was a terrorist attack but, I also believe that the government knew about the attack before it happened and did nothing to stop it.
The pentagon is the most unexplained event that happened on 9/11 to me. The light poles were knocked over, but then again the hole in the building was not big enough for a plane, and where was the debris from the plane crash? Also if it was low enough to hit the light poles wouldn’t it have fallen and skidded on the ground before hitting the building?
There is alot untold to what happened on 9/11 which is what I believe the guys who made the video pointed out. Why wont the government release what happened? Why wont they show us the tape or the files from what happened on that day?? Another thing is the man who sold off the world trade centers a week or so before the attack happened? Also the insurance policy that followed it?
I believe that the government played a huge role in what happened on 9/11. But the truth is there is just to way to much untold about that day to really know what happened. The government got tons of money from the events on 9/11 and it also gave them the so called right to start a war with Iraq. I could be right I could be wrong but that is were my opinion stands.
http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=8340
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loose_Change_(video)
This video is very convincing. Before seeing this all I knew was the twin towers were hit and fell and we were under attack. But I personally choose not to believe what they say. It’s hard to think that our country would do such a thing.
They say that the pentagon magically had another hole on the other side with not too much damage. The grass had absolutely no skids marks on it and the wings supposedly just weren’t left behind to the crash of the building. I think that if America was really under attack they wouldn’t hide any information. These people who caused such a tragedy knew exactly what they were doing. They knew exactly where to fly those planes and exactly where to hit. I believe there were bombs placed in the building. I know the plane is large, but that building is very big and strong, and to see those buildings go down within 10 seconds is hard to think that just one plane could do that, don’t you think?
The people who made this video showed horrible images and videos that I scared me. When they said that police officers knew that there were only so many terrorist on the plane and the phone calls were fake, made me sick! How do they know, they weren’t really there!
I believe similar to Taylor, I believe that the towers were hit by a plane and also bombs were set inside by sick people... I guess we may never know the real truth. But why would they want to start this is hard to understand.
In so many ways Loose change makes you question the governments intentions and possible affiliations with the attacks on the Twin Towers and the Pentagon. All of the points and information in the video make you think twice about what really happened. Some evidence in the video I agree with and some I don't.
Something that did have me convinced was the Twin Towers. How these buildings were made to with stand planes, earthquakes, hurricanes and other natural disasters, but somehow didn't last over an hour w/o collapsing. I don’t understand how other buildings that got hit by planes and caught fire withstood all this for many hours! And also the frames they showed were you could see explosions below the fire and while the building was collapsing.
Believe that the government played a huge role in what happened on 9/11. But there is just to way to tell what happen that day to, really know what happened we need some government officials testifying for the cause. The government made huge amounts of money in profit from the events on 9/11 and it also gave them the right to start a war with Iraq. The government is getting so desperate that they are willing to bring danger into our homeland and that unjust. I love the county I live in but I don’t agree with the people who runs it.
Here's a link to a documentary on the different opinions and reasoning’s about 9/11
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7866929448192753501
After watching the documentary it states that the Boeing 757 crashed into the wall of the pentagon but, before it hit the pentagon it clipped 5 light poles. The evidence about if it really was the Boeing 757 that hit the pentagon is. If it really did clip 5 light poles then how did it still have enough force to hit the building and not hit the grass and that if it was a Boeing 757 then how is there no evidence of the plane. The only evidence of a plane is small parts.
The other argument is about if there was or wasn't bombs in the trade center. The evidence for believing that there where bombs involved is because, the towers fell straight to the ground. In the video it shows buildings that had fires that never fell to the ground.
On 9/11 I believe that it was a terrorist attack but, I also believe that the government knew about the attack before it happened and did nothing to stop it.
http://www.pehi.eu/disinformation/911/2005_07_21_Michael_Green_Loose_Change_analysis.htm
There are many interesting points given in this video. It really catches your attention and makes you want to watch more. With so many factual videos leading in both ways its hard to determine your own oppinion.
The Pentagon with light poles still standing is very hard to pick through. If it was a plane the poles would have been gone . And if a missile hit one it would detinate early . Did they just get lucky ? And the way the buildings went off looked like bombs being detinated in an order. So if the government had nothing to hide and wasnt guilty then why wouldnt they release extremely important video surveillence.
With so many different views of this attack its hard to see what you believe because theres always somethin to change your mind. I feel this may have been a terroristic attack that the governemtn has only gained from . I think Bush knew this was about to happen and chose not to act quickly . This could have saved our nation from its repression and shame.
In Loose Change i think that they are completly out of there mind for making such a video. Sure some of their information was interesting and somewhat persuasive i was not conviced. Thier is no way our country whould have attacked our own country and tooken innocent lives. Sure with the bomb sqad and the dogs not being there when the world trade center was hit it makes it seem a lil fishy but it could have been just a quincident.There are a lot of things going on and you need to study and research the facts first befor you are convinced. I think this film is wacky and very untrue about thier statistics they came up with .
The light poles near the pentagon were knocked over as if something flew into them, like a plane or a missle. If they believe the pentagon was hit by a tomahawk missile then how did it knock down five light poles that could not be knocked down unless by a direct hit? But then again how could a plain made out of aluminum alloy knock down the light poles and still have the wings attached?
I fully believe that 2 planes crashed into the world trade centers. But I do not know if the world trade centers were knocked down because of said planes. The buildings were made to withstand plane attacks, and natural disasters so its hard to believe that the planes themselves only did it.
September 11th, 2001 there were numerous terrorist attacks all across the country but they all might not have been from terrorists.
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Many people have their own opinions on the happenings of 9/11. Most are extreme and think they all have the right answers. I do not agree with the video "Loose Change". I think it's a bunch of liberal theories. For example, it explains that light poles were hit and then it says that a missile hit the Pentagon. I don't think that's very accurate information especially because they contradicted themselves by telling the viewer that there was a different plane that hit a light pole but didn't pull them out of the ground. This was a more powerful plane than the one they were talking about, so perhaps that's an explanation as to why the light poles were completely pulled out of the ground.
I don't think our government would kill so many innocent citizens of our country. And if they did I don't think they'd do such a good job convincing the majority. I like how they say the Al-Qaeda regime have just a bunch of box cutters, when the death toll in Iraq is continuing to rise. Do you really think if they were just a bunch of dumb people with box cutters our armed forces would be having the problems they are?
I believe whole heartedly that the attacks on September 11th were terrorist attacks and they were not just government conspiracies. It's completely ridiculous to think that in my opinion.
I think that the video was very convincing, from the government hiding every little piece of evidence to the whole that didnt even look like an airplane had gone through the Pentagon.
If the United States really was under attack i dont understand why they would try to make such an effort on hiding any little piece of evidence.There was one really interesting fact that they did provide and that was when they were talkin about the engines and the little passport found on the street.I dont see how a passport can make it through all that fire and bombs when its just made out of paper.
I was convinced because the video showed me enough facts about every little detail about every little thing that happened on that day. I could be wrong but how the video was presented really changed my view's on what happened on 9/11.
In the video Loose Change they make a very good case and support there opinion with numerouse amouts of "evidence".. some may be true and some may not.
Such as the "plane" that crashed into the pentagon. they made a very good case about the size of the whole and honestly i dont see how a plane could make a whole that small. Except if it was in fact a missel then how did the light poles get knocked down. But if it truely was what they calmed it to be then why wou the FBI imidetly afterwards confenscate the videoes from the near by hotel unless they were tryign to cover somethign up.
Another strong point they made was how the tower collapsed one floor at a time. if you compare the fall to many other devolitions the building falls in a very simlair way. however i've been told that when there is a large force on concrete it has a tendency to explode under the weight which would explain the poofs of smoke that appeared before the floors collapsed.
Also anothe rpeice of evidence that supports the conspercay theory would be how did they know to move the millions dollars of gold that was under the twin towers. i dont think that was just a coincidence.
In the video Loose Change they make a very good case and support there opinion with numerouse amouts of "evidence".. some may be true and some may not.
Such as the "plane" that crashed into the pentagon. they made a very good case about the size of the whole and honestly i dont see how a plane could make a whole that small. Except if it was in fact a missel then how did the light poles get knocked down. But if it truely was what they calmed it to be then why wou the FBI imidetly afterwards confenscate the videoes from the near by hotel unless they were tryign to cover somethign up.
Another strong point they made was how the tower collapsed one floor at a time. if you compare the fall to many other devolitions the building falls in a very simlair way. however i've been told that when there is a large force on concrete it has a tendency to explode under the weight which would explain the poofs of smoke that appeared before the floors collapsed.
Also anothe rpeice of evidence that supports the conspercay theory would be how did they know to move the millions dollars of gold that was under the twin towers. i dont think that was just a coincidence.
Even though they have all this evidence on the movie clips and all their information how do we know that it all isn't a fake. Because with all the new programs out there and all the high tech equipment that we have, they can make a cartoon into the most believable story of terrorism we have ever seen but the thing you have to look at is if it is believable or not and no one else can decide that but us the USA.
I don’t think that the government would do such a thing because if all the money and years of time and effort to get everything back to the way it was. I think that there are some good arguments in the movie clips but I don’t think that any of it can be true. Yes there are some parts that may be but its not like we know if they are true or not because we are going off of what someone else is saying and what someone else is trying to make us believe. Because how do we know if the guy that made this movie is trying to get us to believe a different story to get us off his back. But exactly we don’t know what to believe because everyone has their own opinion about everything.
So personally I think that everything that the movie said is bull crap and that I think that it was a terrorist attack and that the government knew something was going to happen but they just didn’t act on it because they believe that they would never follow through.
Link: http://www.representativepress.org/whylie.html
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I believe that getting set up is just ridiculous and it irritates me. Also, it makes people have to think more than once about who they lost in 9/11. The man that made this documentary had tons of great point and that's what helped him out teaching us about what happened even more.
I'm not quite sure if I could have been set up but, most likely I probably would have set up and it would have been bad luck for me. The movie "Loose Change" says that it wasn't a commercial plane even though they have snap shots of the shattered glass from that plane. They had bombs that was an explosion under the building. I have a slight thought that maybe even our political system knew what was partially going on but, they didn't want to freak too many people out and didn't say anything.
I do believe that this attack was by terrorists but, I also try and not think about the whole situation. Maybe in some of the situations were wrong of them to do like kill the thousands of people and families that they did. But, the government should have backed us up until waiting till the last second. I believe that the U.S. did know but, I don't want to be against my own country.
The video clip does not provide enough evidence to either prove that terrorist attacked or our government planed it all out to make it seem like terrorists attacked the country. Even though there was not enough evidence to know what really happened at the pentagon the fact are that there were several light poles knocked over but if a plane hit then were are the remains.
Another bizarre thing is the twin towers the phone calls and the video clips. The video clips do make it seem like as if some one planted bombs in the buildings. Nothing is for sure though the government could of planned that one out. Ive seen how large buildings are demolished with tnt and the clip shows the Twins towers with similar traces to of those buildings which are demolished with tnt.
We do not know if the United states government attacked its own country and we may never know. What we do know is that we are now more exposed to terrorist threats then before 9/11 because of the hate that grew for the USA in the Middle East.
http://www.pehi.eu/disinformation/911/2005_07_21
_Michael_Green_Loose_Change_analysis.htm
Above is think to back up all my evidence.
This video was very interesting. Before watching this video I always just believed the twin towers were hit by a plane, knocked down and that was it. But watching this video made me do a lot of thinking...
The Twin Towers had to be hit in the right spot, and by something incredibly powerful. They are not small buildings by any means. I don't believe they were hit by missiles. How does something small, yes powerful, but small create something so large to collapse so easily? For example the FIVE light poles, I don't think one missle could take all of those down. The plane is over twice the size of a missle and could take down two buildings a lot easier than a missle could. I don't understand why they would think a missle could do all of that?
I had not heard about the planted bombs in the building until watching this video. Like I said in the previous paragraph, I thought the buildings were hit by a plane and that was it. There are people trying to say they know who planted them, but if they knew wouldn't they have said something before? Or atleast have tried and stopped it? I have a hard time believing the bomb part. I think people are trying to carry this thing out and make it seam much bigger. I think the buildings were hit by a plane, end of story.
Basically I think 9/11 is much more simple than people are making it. An evil and sick man decided to attack a popular state, and one of the largest buildings to get at the U.S. Why they would want to start a huge fight and get themselves into this type of situation beats me. I believe the building was hit by a plane, no secret bombs were planted...
A lot of evidence was in the video. For one there was no plane evidence in the pentagon except little minor things that could easily be placed there. Also by the pentagon the light poles were still there if the plane were to crash there the light poles would have been knocked down. Also with the pentagon the hole that was left was not like a hole that would have been left by a plane it was just a round hole. Another where was the videos to prove the plane really hit the well who took them the government, why maybe because it wasn’t a plane that crashed into it?
More evidence there’s a lot, what was going on when the trade centers were falling down? The windows below were blowing up. When the windows were at the bottom and the world trade center was collapsing at the top. Why? Maybe because there was bombs blowing up at the bottom to make it collapse. Also where was the plane that crashed in ground? There was no plane no dead people nothing. Why the plane never crashed there it landed in an airport later. Also who called Bush to not take his plane that day and why?, Maybe because it was 9/11 that day. What happened to the people on the plane that crashed into the towers? Why when one guy called his mom that was suposevly in the plane did it not sound like him. Maybe perhaps voice changers.
Before this video I did think it was a terrorist attack after I do believe it could possibly be the government. Why because you cant trust them or believe them. Every one that thinks they have higher power has a power trip with that they think they can do what ever they want. If this were to be true though if the government did do this what would they do it? For the gold, money, files or perhaps revenge and if they did it for these reasons what about the innocent people all the Americans that dead because of 9/11, all the Americans fighting in this war and all the innocent people dying in Iraq?
One bit of evidence that is left unexplained is the peoples families that were on the plane.... why werent they contacted and interviewed? Also the Poles at the Pentagon, what happened to the five poles?
The twin towers were very convincing however. They showed frames in the video on explosions taking place a couple stories lower every time, while the building was calapsing. Many people said they heard multiple explosion on this day. However things that they can do on video these days are very impressive so i could see how someone could make a video like this and insert some lighting effects and stuff within this video.
On September 11th i believe that a terrorist attacked did take place simply because of the interviewers and what seemed like, false information. You would think that the people who interviewed everyone and put this movie together, would of interviewed the family members. I dont think that this was a inside job on a way to make money, simply because of the number of lost lifes and far fetched ideas.
Loose Change Blog
After watching the video, Loose Change, and doing some independent research, I have found a few points worth noting.
First off, let’s just say that the government organized this and killed 3000 American citizens, why then is the creator of Loose Change still alive? I am sure they could have figured out a way to take him and his documentary out for good if they are the conniving bloodhounds he points them out to be. None the less, the documentary is entertaining and does give you brain a little workout.
As for the hole in the pentagon, let’s just focus a bit on the hole which the author says is too small for a jet (and the jet doesn’t have damage from the tail or any of the wings), so he’s proposing that a tomahawk cruse missile was the culprit. However, how does he account for half a dozen telephone polls that were snipped off which were clearly too far apart for the tiny cruse missile wing span to clip—just an objective observation with no written documents for proof, but it kind of makes his story incredible.
Another observation is how, with all the government system in place, how could the parties keep this secret? Each one of the different parties despise the other and would like nothing more then to sink their constituents into so much trouble, they would never see the light of day.
Some other falsehoods that he proposes are that jet fuel does not burn hot enough to melt steel. This is true, but, since steel melts at some 1500 degrees c and jet fuel burns at only 800 degrees c. However, steels starts to weaken at 550 c and would need to only lose 60 percent of its strength to collapse, this happens at 720 c, and what would you know—jet fuel burns at over 800 degrees c. So even though this video is entertaining, the facts just don’t add up.
I am happy that I can say with conviction that I do not believe the US planed this. We might be a little corrupt, but we haven’t stooped to the level of murdering thousands of people to make a quick buck.
http://www.serendipity.li/wot/mslp_ii.htm
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=911_morons
Here's a link to a documentary on the different opinions and reasoning’s about 9/11
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7866929448192753501
After watching the documentary it states that the Boeing 757 crashed into the wall of the pentagon but, before it hit the pentagon it clipped 5 light poles. The evidence about if it really was the Boeing 757 that hit the pentagon is. If it really did clip five light poles then how did it still have enough force to hit the building? If it was a Boeing 757 then how is there no evidence of the plane. The only evidence of a plane is small parts.
The other argument is about if there was or wasn't bombs in the trade center. The evidence for believing that there where bombs involved is because the towers fell straight to the ground. In the video it shows buildings that had fires that never fell to the ground.
On 9/11 I believe that it was a terrorist attack, but I believe that the government knew about the attack before it happened and did nothing to stop it.
I believe that there was no bombs in the world trade centers. If you think about it. The gas tanks in the plane would have exploded on impact because of the heat that was made by plane and the trade center. They claim that there was never anyone found in the crash and that there was never any blood found. I think that was because of how much heat there was at once completely incinerated on impact which left it all to be nothing. I think that 9/11 was terrorist attacks, but in that respect the government is keeping things from us for sanity reasons. Letting to much information out can be a bad thing, letting to much information out on this topic would send rioters, journalists, and critics over the edge. I understand that there needs to be peace with all of this but i do also think the government kept too much from us.
In my opinion the thought of the 9/11 attacks being staged is simply outrageous. It is a simply minded conspiracy theory that simply wants attention. If you want to just go around making stuff up than why dont it try,
Say the plane attacks were simply a distraction, as you see throughout the entire film everytime they show a person watching the spectacle, thier eyes are facing were? UP! so waht does that mean?! you could walk right in to the building dressed in a dollar store costume of a police officer or fire fighter and no one would be the wiser. in construction many designers use a triangle to reinforce a building, it is also a simple way to destroy a building. by simply trangulating 3 terrorists on a couple of floor with a couple of pounds of C4, you could sequence your detinations to destroy a sky scraper. this would account for the explosions vissible from the windows. that was an imrpvisation!! what do you think you could do if you had 5 years to make something up. well, you could probabley make it darn near bulletproof and would have pre-desiganted and pre-practiced responses to anything that would be questioned. its all slide of hands. While your looking at the preaty explosions and listning to the nasaly, monotone of a narrator drag on about his hypothesis, you are being unkowingly brain washed by simple questions.
I would also have to agree with Ryan about this link. It does test my thoughts on how true the Loose Change video is. But it doesn't completely change them.
http://www.pehi.eu/disinformation/911/2005_07_21_Michael_Green_Loose_Change_analysis.htm
Just because people saw explosions coming out of the world trade centers doesn’t mean there were bombs planted in the world trade centers. There could have been gas tanks located on those floors or maybe those explosions were from the floors giving way underneath the level that the plane crashed on. And even if there were explosives planted in the Trade Centers, how can we know if the government put them there? If terrorists can take over our planes and crash them into our buildings with out us being able to stop them, why couldn’t they plant bombs in our trade centers too?
The government had to be in on this attack one-way or another or else why would they confiscate the only video that showed what really hit the Pentagon in Pennsylvania? And if it wasn’t a plane that hit the Pentagon, then what exactly has the wingspan to hit five lampposts and can direct itself into the Pentagon without leaving any debris behind?
This whole catastrophe is a little too complex for any one person to have planned this and the government isn’t allowing the public/media to obtain enough information to tell us exactly what really happened so I know that this case will be just like the Kennedy conspiracy that happened in 1963 that will go on for decades with out being completely resolved.
what really got me in this film was the light poles and the attack pentagon. this movie really got me thinking more on what could have hahpend then what we were seeing and hearing when it did happen. this film showed evidence that on the twin towers that could of happend. after seeing it all happen and wathcing the film i do belive that it was some how planed, and maybe it wasnt exactly like it was on the video but i do belive that parts could have been true. i think now money is so powerful to people that they are willing to do these kind of things, and its scary thats the kind of society that were living in today. who ever did plan it tried to cover up the evidence and did a pretty good job but left some things out that makes us think that it is posible for someone to plant the bombs in the building. everything adds up so well now that i think this is what had happend to our twin towers
Loose change is considered one of the most embarrassing conspiracy theorist movies ever made by many professional conspiracy theorists. The reasons why are many. Some I will list below.
First, one statement that was made in the movie was that a reporter spotted the planes before they crashed into the building, and saw no people sitting in them. What the movie failed to present was that this reporter was two miles away at that time.
Another interesting “false” fact that this movie presented was the hole in the Pentagon. Loose Change tried to say that the hole was not big enough for it to be made by an entire plane. Again, what the movie failed to show was the entire hole. Loose change only showed the top floor part of the hole, not including the entire bottom.
These are only two simple facts that were found wrong, there are many more. As stated before, many conspiracy theorists say that this film was poorly done and had very bad information. I completely have to agree with this, in that the film was very poor and not strong in its information.
The video "Loose Change" that we watched in Mr. Sinks' class contained a lot of information about the 9/11 incident. However, most of the things that were offered as evidence were opinions of people that said they witnessed it. There were, however, pictures that could probably swing either way. Pictures can be tampered with, but I don't see why a video producer who stated "these views are not biased by the creators of this film" would lie about something so trivial. Though some of these things we watched in the film can be ruled out, there are certain things that raise a few questions.
Let's examine the claim that the plane that crashed into the pentagon hit the ground first, skid, knocked over light poles, and then hit the pentagon. When the site was examined, there was no evidence of a plane skidding at all. The only evidence was knocked over light poles, but no skid marks. Also, the question is raised about the jet turbines. The turbines were made of steel. After hitting the pentagon at a speed upward of 500 mph they left no impression other than a round hole for the body of the plane. What is that all about???
As for my view, I believe that we were attacked that day not by our government, but by some outside force that wanted to cause us pain. I am however, open to the fact that there are a few pieces that don't quite fit together. These include the pentagon issue which I've already told you about, the "demolition" flashes shown in some of the slow-mo pictures, and the record of Flight 93 landing somewhere in Pittsburgh. They raise quite a few good questions, but I don't see our government doing something to cause so much pain to the American people. This link will show you why I believe it was not our government.
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